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- | ====== Overview ====== | + | ====== 2G Baro Input Workaround ====== |
- | When using something like a MAF translator that allow using DSMLink's Ignore IAT/Baro feature, the ECU's baro sensor input can be used for some aftermarket sensor such as a MAP sensor or a wideband O2 sensor. However, the baro input of the 2G ECU may not be compatible with the aftermarket sensor. The 2G ECU has a 3.3K ohm pull-down resistor (R39). This may put more load on the sensor than it can tolerate and still put out a proper signal. For example, a GM 3-bar sensor can only drive this input to 1.76 volts at maximum pressure. The new Delphi sensor seems to have a bit lower output impedance and will drive the 2G baro input to a little higher voltage at maximum sensor pressure, but it's still unsuitable. | + | The baro input of the 2G ECU may not be compatible with aftermarket sensors. The 2G ECU has a 3.3K ohm pull-down resistor (R39 on 1995 EPROM ECUs), which may (probably will) put more load on the sensor than it can drive properly. |
- | Short of removing R39 from the ECU (described below), the 2G baro input is suitable for use only with very low impedance sensors (even a 50-ohm output impedance will produce a little over 1% of voltage offset). Since most sensor designs have a resistor in series with its output for protection, the 2G ECU's baro sensor input is probably not suitable for use with most sensors. | + | For example, a GM 3-bar sensor can only drive this input to 1.76 volts at maximum pressure. The GM 3.3-bar sensor seems to have a bit lower output impedance and will drive the 2G baro input a little higher, but it's still unsuitable. |
- | The 1G baro input doesn't seem to be subject to this problem. It has an input impedance similar to the 2G MDP sensor input's 100K ohms). | + | Short of removing that resistor from the ECU (described below), the 2G baro input is suitable for use only with very low impedance sensors (even a 50-ohm output impedance will produce a little over 1% of voltage offset). Since most sensor designs have a resistor in series with its output for protection, the 2G ECU's baro sensor input is probably not suitable for use with most sensors. |
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+ | **OMNIPOWER NOTE:** The [[http://www.ecmtuning.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_30&products_id=47|OmniPower 4-bar sensor]] that we sell on our website *does* work fine on the 2G baro input. This sensor incorporates a buffer circuit that drives the 2G baro input just fine. | ||
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+ | **GM MAF CABLE NOTE:** Also note that our GM MAF cable's "baro" [[gmmafiatbaro|breakout wire]] includes a buffer circuit as well. So any sensor connected to a GM MAF cable's "baro" wire will work fine as well without having to deal with the 2G ECU's baro input resistor configuration. | ||
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+ | The 1G baro input doesn't seem to suffer from this problem. It has an input impedance similar to the 2G MDP sensor input's 100K ohms). | ||
**12/19/2007:** Instead of this process, you can also consider using the [[ECUInputData|buffer circuit]]. | **12/19/2007:** Instead of this process, you can also consider using the [[ECUInputData|buffer circuit]]. | ||
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====== Process ====== | ====== Process ====== |